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How badly did I screw up by getting Ermaltion for BT instead of PoME???

Discussion in 'Gameplay Questions' started by Shipwrecksos, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. Ozuros

    Ozuros "All you need is Hime" -Ozu 2017

    but without debuffs, womilliam should have 250-300 crit first shot :eek: (or at least mine would, upper limit is if I ran CR subs instead of pen)
     
  2. Drakon

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    That's not how calculations work lol. Damage reduction doesn't stack like crit resist,
    the more you get, the less it matters. As for HP, its 35% to base, not the buffed hp.

    Anyway both work good, HP is better for Pen aces, DR is better for damage heavy strikers.
    I went for the El Rapayon path, the DR and heals are waaay too good to pass up.

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    Never fear! Starx already set me straight on the math errors. So far, I've seen good results with it, though I may experiment some more.

    Also, I'm glad you're trying out the new (El Rapayon) stone. I'm anxious to hear how it works out in the upper-level leagues.
     
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    So far it's godly in PvE, but feels the same as a PoME in PvP.

    Switching from PoME to a ER made me gain 5% DR
    and 25% crit dmg resistance but lose 38% crit resist.

    Yes, they do less damage because of DR and heals.
    But, I had to give up 38% crit resist meaning shooters crit a bit more often.

    So all in all, it's the same. Just depends if you use BT in PvE or not.
    That should be what makes up your mind.

    Anyway, cheers for BT.

    I cant even imagine how broken Jin would be with an ER...ER ♎ ♎
     
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    UPDATE:

    The higher I go, the more people build pen/crit.
    I gave up going DR, now using a CR build: E

    I still swap to DR for CoD and CoT though: ER

    Anyway, good luck on your BTing lol.
     
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    Well, considering BT's active synergizes well with a CR build, I've been leaning in that direction over DR lately. It's not that DR is a "BAD" choice or anything for her, but if you take DR at the expense of CR, you end up making that CR portion of her active pretty much useless (since her active in and of itself doesn't carry enough CR to make a noticeable difference). Of course, the active's HP buff will remain helpful in both configurations. Sometimes I wish the active provided DR instead of CR.
     
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    Also Drakon, what are your thoughts on CDR??? If (theoretically speaking) you have enough CR, wouldn't that make CDR useless? I'm seeing CDR popping up more and more in game lately, but I have mixed feelings on it.
     
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    I've talked to people about this in theory (like @Yuraji) and you can build crit dmg resistance to like 100%
    but the problem is we dont know if this will block 100% of the crits to make it like normal shots, or just
    take off 100% crit dmg from the shooters crit dmg.

    I wouldn't worry about it, leave it to someone with no life (like @anavn) to try it out and show us in a video lol.
     
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    I already made a video on this lol. It does not work on total crit damidge it works on value for example

    striker x = 50% crit damidge
    Issila = 85% crit damidge resistance (duran er shaman)
    actual bonus crit damidge 0 since 50-85% = 0 So we don't care about you criting at all lol magical in pve

    vonchi 400 crit damidge
    issila = 85% crit dmidge rez
    actual bonus 325% crit damidge
     
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    Lol nice. @Yuraji, you don't have to waste ur time now with Robin haha.
     
  11. Ozuros

    Ozuros "All you need is Hime" -Ozu 2017

    So the limit for CDR is only 100?
     
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    Nope no limit same as critical damidge
     
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    No, but that's how much you can build without giving up another stat which is probably more important.
     
  14. Ozuros

    Ozuros "All you need is Hime" -Ozu 2017

    Ah ok thx. So with aiolos, shaman, Robin, PC, jiho, we can only expect roughly 200 CDR
     
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    Want a thunder gk and activated a broken abuse go glade use jiho ace and change rez totem around 45% dr unblockable befor regular dr and all the buffs she got add a duran on line and watch the opposing team cry.
     
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    @Yuraji: Brb gonna draw jiho and aiolos real quick.
     
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    Yes but remenber most strikers are around 100 to 150 only utilities and sob can reach more so you wont meet many even vonchi needs 2 stacks to hit 200%

    Why draw just dm buy :) lcreep
     
  18. Ozuros

    Ozuros "All you need is Hime" -Ozu 2017

    Then the question is, will reducing the striker's damage to pure dribble damage be worth it over building another GK that runs DR or CR lthink
     
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    Yes as long as you also have dr and hp but for it to work you need duran shaman and jiho on line add a magnus and it can be quite strong. Just if your using it do it with a gk that cant crit rez anyway like issila who really takes advantidge of this with 60% heal on shot yes with 4K hp and around 75% dr if no one is dead (shaman give extra 7% for every dead)
     
  20. Ozuros

    Ozuros "All you need is Hime" -Ozu 2017

    Anavn :eek: you've just described an OP backline for presty who has lots of DR and CDR :eek: seems scary.

    Though if we think about it, building CDR ends up being similar to building CR, except you'll need less CDR than CR to do well, allowing for more HP/DR is what I'm kinda taking away from this
     

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