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Midfielders at higher levels

Discussion in 'Team Advice' started by iTsukuyomi, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. iTsukuyomi

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    Hi guys! I was hoping somewan can give me tips abt midfielders. Curently im running neraizel,shu and yuri in my mid. But recently i have been watching videos of high level players using all forward passing players at higher levels due to the fact tat the enemy has an extremely stronk midfield. Does penetration players like shu falls off at higher lvls?? If so i'll probably focus on my forward passing players.
     
  2. Lefyr

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    attacker to penetrate or forward passer to jump to front is good
    well it depends on your line up or in your opposite enemy, attacker is a good choice when you already invest them to easily crush you MF enemy but if youre having hard time to penetrate from mid to front you may want to use a forward passer and also because some forward passer is also good totem or assist like sammy which can heal within position and increase max hp when pass.
    attacker(who does penetrating) + forward passer in mid is also good
    in my opinion you should still focus on your attacker than forward passer player
     
  3. Azrael007

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    Top-tier penetrators like Malcolm and Mikael definitely have a place attacking in mid at endgame, doubly so for legends like Duke, Beth, Khirel, Shu, Bell, etc.

    Forward passers like Sammy or Linmay are still very useful, some people make their front or back strong vs. mid strong, so if you find yourself outclassed against a mid like Duke - Metatron - Malcolm you can avoid engaging since there's really no weak point to attack. Both have their places endgame.

    Having said that, your mid is really weird. Are you running an ardor/whirlwind deck? I've never seen a "pro" player running a mid with Neraizel - Yuri - Shu. Yuri works really well anywhere, but mid is least frequent spot for her, usually front or back. Neraizel mid is definitely unusual. I'd only use Neraizel in decks with lots of whirlwind units, and then I'd only use her as passer to Beatrice or Kirin striker in front line.
     
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  4. iTsukuyomi

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    yer i have problems wif mid T.T i use yuri to help boost shu...i just use neraizel coz i summoned her 4 times xD so she like 4 superb power-up,she is fast and stuff so she usually get the ball first. I use her to pass to shu for an instant penetration if possible...soo yer :p oh i run a rainbow deck now coz i don't think i have the right cards to go one pure or duo colour.OTL* I didnt put Neraizel in front line coz i arld have nari thr. Anyways thanks for the advice. I try to find a solution for my mid soon :D
     
  5. iTsukuyomi

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    oh how abt victoria lia shu mid? gosh i sux at thinking ;huh
     
  6. iTsukuyomi

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    Rgt now i have
    Ardor: victoria, Lucius, Shu, lia, kelvin
    WW: Linmay
    Thunder: Cynthia
    Light: Duke, Cassiel, Celus
    Dark: Dale, Lilith, Alkyde, Avnore
    Sooo i just listed viable players i have for mid i guess...
    My Front line consist of: Nari, Veronica, Leventor
    MY back line: Anael, mariel/Avnore, Kiki
    GK: Kei/Zibroi
     
  7. Phoena

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    Shu is actually top tier midfielder overall.
    He is extremely good at PvE and very good at PvP.

    Nari Veronica Leventor
    Duke Victoria Shu Kevin
    Anael Avnore Kiki
    Kei

    Nari Veronica Leventor
    Victoria Lia Shu
    Anael Avnore Kiki
    Kei/Zib
     
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  8. Azrael007

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    Not using Duke /um/

    If you have many superbs into Neraizel I can see why you are using her. Keep your front as it is, it's pretty good.

    I would use Neraizel as front passer for Leventor. He's got great crit rate, he doesn't need Nari so much, and with Overwhelming II Neraizel will be amazing at stealing the ball in front. For your mid do:

    Victoria - Shu - Duke

    Whoever in the middle (Shu or Duke) is higher level/more evolved/more superbs.
     
  9. iTsukuyomi

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    oh k icic haha thanks alot guys! I like tat setup @Phoena \stars
    @Azrael007 oh i didnt use duke coz i alrd had shu at 2 superb-up(stronger than duke for now). I think putting them tgt is abit of a power clash.I would prefer mid to be: Passer, Penetrator, totem. I find shu to have an advantage over duke haha (TOTALLY BIASED) I find Duke(on steroids) > shu when it comes to penetration but duke skills < shu skills coz shu expanding strategy and superiority allows me to get spirit back so if i penetrate though enemy mid line i can instantly use nari active and leventor active at one go for a (I VRY MUCH HOPE) O.K. shot. I might try swapping Nari for Neraizel but i realised tat crit resist on enemy backline rlly destroys strikers ability to wreak so i usually go for extra crit chance just in case xD I'll try out those setups u suggested...probably better than any setup i can think of! xD Thanks anyways u guys were a BIG help :D \loveu
     
  10. iTsukuyomi

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    ohh btw i think mariel and kei is a godlike combo xD i wanna try them out. like superfast backline so i can consantly proc mariel gay erosion skill and make kei hold the ball when its the enemy turn! #wreaktown \what saw this on youtube xD posted by a guy called crowbitz Totally crush colo stage 50 front lines
     
  11. Veronica

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    Only good in PVE since Kei will never hold the ball in PVP
     
  12. iTsukuyomi

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    Hmmm so which gk is btr for PVP? Kei or Zib? i heard tat the btr wan would be kei coz he have forestall skill. so kei > Zib when it comes to crit resist. oh and thnks for the tip
     
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    This formation is kinda weird. Normally Penetrator is put to the side to have an easier time penning. The middle is mostly for tanky ballholder like elizabeth meiran or sammy (those are some i can think of). But if it works then try using it for now.
     
  14. Veronica

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    Zib is meh in PVP. Kei is better due to his stacking Dmg reduc not his forestall. Forestall is useless if use alone and kei not having any crit resist
     
  15. iTsukuyomi

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    haha yah ikr xD I am one strange guy :] I been trying to swap shu from middle to side but I find his fantasy star skill awesome when it comes to breaking down tough mid lines especially those wif two in the center. Break the strongest part of the wall and everything falls wif it \oof But i probably change shu for duke when i get him to a stronger stage and put him at the sidelines for an easier pen! thanks anyways :D
     
  16. Azrael007

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    I use Shu off-color in my light/thunder deck, you don't need to tell me how good he is, he's great :D. I'm glad to see him get some appreciation, I usually have to convince people (even ardor players!) that Shu is worth using.

    I wouldn't say Shu is the best midfield though. That's stiff competition. He takes a serious hit in durability in PvP because he's so reliant on heals, and he's going against Duke, Bell, Beth, Metatron, Khirel.... so many good legends.

    How do all these new people have 2-3 legends, even ones they're not using ;~;. I've pulled soooo many 10+1s trying to get a second legend...
     
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  17. iTsukuyomi

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    IKR omfg i played this game for 1 whole freaking year!! But i took my time to play soo yer i still sux ars xD I saw some guy rank 60+ had like 4 legend and i pretty sure he didnt play for more than a year T.T mindblowing. i only draw shu(one whole year ago) and leventor(vry vry vry recently) from draw and got duke from rank 30 thingy. i certainly dont have the magical golden fingers :alone: The amount of 300 crytsal i saved and spend on 10+1s
     
  18. Veronica

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    I have only Shu. You have a lot more than me lol.

    Wish BB buffs shu more so I can use him even off color in PVP
     
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  19. iTsukuyomi

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    well they did make a great change to him...his skills are vry good compared to when he first can out but yer i wish they buff him abit :3 welcome aboard #ShuLoyaltyTrain i find shu underrated by many D:
     
  20. Azrael007

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    lol bruh I've got a lvl 100+ account, lvl 83 account, lvl 45 account. The ONLY legends I have ever gotten are from the level 30 one. On my lvl 100 account I got William (mono dark deck with max Ravian.. that ain't happening) on level 83 light/thunder I got Shu (not bad at all, but literally anyone else would have been better). I've even started like 50+ new accounts trying to get a legend with that free 10+1 draw and I haven't drawn a single one, not to mention the dozens - if not hundreds - of 10+1's I've saved for or actually bought over like a year of playing.
     

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