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Patch Notes [3/21]

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Kazu19, Mar 21, 2018.

  1. icebarrier

    icebarrier Bronze

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    1) i didnt say the bottom, alot if people are quoting you so i think you mixed me up

    2) no seriously everyone you see in gl has that team except variations in midline like khirel/felix/choi the backline and frontline especially frontline are all the same

    If youre still in like plat or so theres probably variance but that goes away as you go up.
     
  2. PaxMilitae

    PaxMilitae This world needs more Noa

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    You are leaving a "childish game" in a very childish way: dodging my question and blaming me for the off-topic.

    My point still stands: both Shanti and Damien are cancerous because they don't have direct counters...and no, presenting a build that would screw (nearly) every other striker doesn't count because, even so, both outperform almost all strikers, Legends included.

    Be as it may, I lost interest on this matter, so might as well move forward.

    @Shipwrecksos I gotta disagree. Kirna remains on a good spot, she's just not a free ticket to GL anymore. As for Presty, I rather face 10 Prestys with my Leventor than 1 CR Kirna.
     
  3. Shipwrecksos

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    Ironically, the one thing that they actually DIDN'T nerf on her was her insanely OP crit rate debuff, which arguably was the bigger culprit in what made her so broken (especially a CR Kirna, as you pointed out). I suppose it could always be worse (and it's impossible to please everyone with a nerf or a buff).

    Mind you, I'm NOT in favor of broken, EZ mode players. But geez, man. At least let new legends play on the playground for more than one season before leg sweeping them to the ground like Chuck Norris. Most legends aren't nerfed to this extent before they even change into a "classic star."
     
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  4. icebarrier

    icebarrier Bronze

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    1bar spirit means

    Kirna team starts ball
    Kirna eats balth miri
    Kirna doesnt have 1 bar, pass
    Kirna eats jib miri

    If kirnas limping by then she gets to shield



    If kirna is crit in either of those 2 shots
    She has no shield, she has nerfed dr and defense (no seriously check it), and if bb hit her crit resist, shed basically be a worse raklet.



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    All this patch has done is send presty back to screwing around. And its not like itll take people time to go presty. They literally had her before kirna tried to change meta to crit res. This patch literally took steps backwards.

    Also it nulls williams crit rate buff.

    Presty has negative crit res.

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    oh right i forgot to add

    30% of kirnas crit res comes from her using her shield its treated as a 10m buff when she casts her active, stays even if shield is gone

    she wont have that for shot 1, and shot 2
     
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  5. PaxMilitae

    PaxMilitae This world needs more Noa

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    In that case, wouldn't it be better if they increased the cooldown to 10 minutes and made her active free of spirit cost?
     
  6. icebarrier

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    Youd have to run lightning speed cm and blue dec dmg on your face tanking nerua to compensate the

    Coinflip chance

    That rng fucks you

    And then cmthe

    Coinflip chance

    That miri or william dont blow you up on shot 1 cause you know cr has to stack up vs the 380-400c shot 1s


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    Spirit cost just adds more tax to kirna setup

    And being the only existing crit res gk she was already taxing lines if you ran random junk like bi mid or yeo jung cm
     
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  7. icebarrier

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    Either way its just alot less hassle to fallback to the dr, pen res, cdmg res 3way gks

    If its not presty its glayde then zibroi alexa following that
     
  8. Nawzu

    Nawzu Bora Husbando Staff Member

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  9. xXPhoenixXx

    xXPhoenixXx Fabulous banana

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    Which idiot thought it was a good idea to make loki a girl ?
     
  10. icebarrier

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    Loki shoulda turned to a mare so helen can fuck him and make sleipnir
     
  11. PaxMilitae

    PaxMilitae This world needs more Noa

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    Well, most of the Nordic deities are pictured as females in the SS version (remarkable exception being Fenrir), so it kinda makes sense. Besides, Loki is the God of deception, so genderbending wouldn't be a hassle for him, as long as it meant achieving his goals. Out of all the members of Twilight of Valhalla, Loki is probably the only one who make sense to be either male or female.

    One thing we gotta keep in mind is that they're not retelling the lore of the Nordic Gods. BigBall only took them as a ground to work on and create their own characters, hence why so many things seem out of place at first sight.

    This might be an unpopular opinon, but Odin is probably the coolest of them all, with her tale of good intentions and noble heart slowly spiralling her into a descent of violence and loneliness, someone who's so desperate to do things right and not lose anyone that ends up losing everything. I really hope we will have the chance to explore more of Valhalla's lore, because it brought so much new content and so many questions. My bets are that Valhalla will eventually have a relevant role in the future, given that Veramod's huge interest in destroying it.
     
  12. Cero

    Cero I's different

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    Thing is.. if they actually nerfed her CR to the point where you can crit her without trying that'd be the equivalent of them getting rid of Presty's para(which I'd be hella down for btw). I know you gonna say that you want a slight CR nerf so it's not as broken but it really isn't that broken. Her shield coupled with small CD+Spirit cost was arguably the biggest culprit.. imo anyway.
     
  13. icebarrier

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    If her cr got nerfed and she was widely crittable

    Were looking at

    -4-5k hp
    -Bout 40-50 dr since it got nerfed too
    -No shield cause spirit cost and 60% cd timeincrease

    Stoppping a crit is 100% full cdmg reduction

    Taking a crit is full damage with no :
    Pen res
    Shit dr
    No cdmg res

    Shed literally be a more expensive raklet

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    William and miri crit her no problem before if they wanted to

    Tho shes pretty much dead as a gk as alexa is. Still ok. But just save yourself the hassle and run presty or glayde.

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    30% crit res is tied to that shield

    Which she cant gave until shes taken shot 1
    And if you match start, shot 2
     
  14. icebarrier

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    Crit resist gks had to be like this

    To even consider competing

    And even then it was too much

    Its an all or nothing roulette stat that shouldnt even be bothered to try
    Just like the existence if utility strikers being

    Literally a waste of space

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    Dr, pen res, cdmg res now and forever
     
  15. PaxMilitae

    PaxMilitae This world needs more Noa

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    To be fair, I gotta agree with both.

    Yes, this nerf to Kirna might hurt her way more than it should. Before, people could run either full CR or full HP/DR builds...and both would work. One more than the other, but they would. Problem is we had several examples of setups that would give Kirna WAY TOO MUCH of everything. Throw the enemy's crit rate to the abyss, pump your to a really high amount, get no crit damage at all. Oh, so it wasn't enough? No problem, there's still plenty of HP, DR and so on, right over here. Kirna with Nerua+Vanity+Chundo/Saramir+Aiolos was an insult to the game balance, since it would, in most cases, buy enough time for Kirna to recover her HP and refresh her active.

    So yes, her active HAD to be nerfed. It was too cheap and offered way too much for an active with such a short cooldown. I don't think they needed to nerf her other skill, though...now most endgame Kirna users won't have much of a choice other than going full crit resist, which means more repetitive builds, more repetitive formations and a less fun experience.
     
  16. icebarrier

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    End game kirna users would run presty so they dont get analed by the first 2 shots before they can build up defense.

    And ill take back every complaint i had in this thread if by next season theres still a good showing of kirnas.

    Because shes honestly dead.

    People run whats best naturally. What she offers has no reliability in safety.

    By nature shes a gamble gk. Win big or lose hard.

    Why run her when the next lg gk has had rule for practically 5+ months now with no problems and less of a requirement.
     
  17. tiffeur

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    Kirna with full cr build is a joke, she has no enough hp to resist for 2 shots for miri or william, and moreover utility striker like bora blade kirin break her easily with quick time to shoot another time.
     
  18. icebarrier

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    kirnas vit stat is fairly high, its just that if she does get crit her only defense aside from the now nerfed shield, was the crit res


    so then shes taking like 4-5k crits when she does get crit out
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    the good ol days

    different games obv

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    as of now shes a thing of the past

    though shes better off than like isillia

    theres a huge ass gap between gks that its just as absurd as the striker gap
     
  19. xXPhoenixXx

    xXPhoenixXx Fabulous banana

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    Actually he's the trickster god, not deception .-. But imagine a shirtless male Loki ;-; that would look so cool
     
  20. xXPhoenixXx

    xXPhoenixXx Fabulous banana

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    Btw sephirot is the new Damien xD
     

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