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The secret to controlling coop def

Discussion in 'Guides and Tips' started by anavn, Jun 25, 2016.

  1. GioB89

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    I used to use def debuff a lot before pass nerf.

     
  2. anavn

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    Well it is worse for 1 hit ko and better for utility strikers now so it is up to you. Personally I always wanted to keep the ball front so I game up a bit of damidge and pass efect for heal dr att and def dow like skills.

    Created Something like hiro MW balt Lilith , hiro was eventualy replaced by vonchi but work well
     
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    actually no, efficiency is same, OHKO just got nerfed in general.
     
  4. anavn

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    what I mean is 1 hit ko aim for high damidge while def reduce is nice but not a must as def is low while a utility will gaine more on it as the line will get att to steal again reducing there life more for non striker players !
     
  5. GioB89

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    It depends on stats, on my video dmg increase from def debuff was equivalent for ~100% crit DMG.
     
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    Not disagreeing that def reduce is grate but I still feal it is a utility game as I bearly know any good front line with der reduce except for that tunder one that would fit the 1 hit ideal
     
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    1 hit does not exist anymore
     
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    in pvp it is no longer possible but in pve if you build you entier team with legends and perfect rolls around it you can still pull it off .
     
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    in pve yes
     
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  10. Discord

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    tbh, coop doesn't bother me, just more units to kill imo.
     
  11. anavn

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    He has a ww profile I sens a kirin user whitch acctualy is more advantiged when facing coop def lol
     
  12. Nawzu

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    I'd say any Utility striker line, who focuses on getting the ball back through kill stealing (not CAs) would benefit from enemy cooping
    More damage the backline takes, the more easier to kill them, more easier to get 1v1s and do more damage

    But in PvE u cant kill the backline

    and I help fixed yer english cuz Nawzu a nice boi <3
     
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    As a vonchi user I can say that it repends the back line and what players they have. most of the time I would prefer ending it fast cos there still is a chance they might break out but that chance is of course much smaller for a utility line in my case balt MW Vonchi but stoning is very different from the standards with life regen based on crit damidge or crit on every player!
     
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    1 hit does not exist anymore
    1 hit does not exist
    1 hit exist
    1 hit
    [​IMG]
    If Roina penetrated instead of victoria and if there was EBM on Yuri, the damage would've been a bit higher
     
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  15. Krezhyre

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    Does anyone have the formula to it? or at least the %? like 100 def equals 1%?
     
  16. anavn

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    It got changed and it is not event the same for all modes so quite fustrating.
     
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    The art of getting rid of coop-defense forever.
    Uninstall :D
     
  18. Krezhyre

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    RNG is the main source of Co Op
     
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    No shit sherlock
     

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