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Third SoccerSpirits Tier List

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Darulos, Jul 8, 2016.

  1. Darulos

    Darulos BT FTW Staff Member

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    Copied from /u/Hyaz post on Reddit

    Thanks to everyone for your participation and contributions!

    As with the previous tier list, this post will start off with a short description of how the data has been analysed including the troll post identification and removal process. This section will be written as if the reader has not participated in the survey for future reference. After that we will move on to the Tier lists by Attribute and finally the overall Tier List itself.

    Feel free to skip to whatever section interests you.


    Survey Summary and Data Analysis

    Responses were collected from a survey for each attribute independently. The following are the final totals of each:

    Attribute Responses
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    These responses were then analysed.

    A simple scoring system was used to rate each individual player. A numerical value was given to each of the five rating options as follows:

    Option Rating
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    A total of each score was created for each player. These totals were then analysed in an effort to remove troll responses. It is expected that a histogram of the totals for each score should form a bell curve. If the responses on either extreme failed to fit the bell curve, then they were removed.

    As an example from the survey, the following are the unedited results for Furion:

    Option Total Score
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    It is clear that the 9 results under "OP" do not match the bell curve created by the other categories. As such these 9 results were removed.

    Several responses in each survey were removed due to them containing either no response to the survey or consisting of only one type of rating for all answers.

    The categories removed for containing troll votes are as follows (be aware there will be some overlap):

    Player Option removed Total removed
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    After removing troll posts the tier lists were composed. Each player would get a grading out of 100 using the rating system explained above. These players were then given tiers by the following metric:

    Tier Range
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    Tier List by Attribute


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    Whirlwind:

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    Thunder:

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    Light:

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    Dark:

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    Overall Tier List:

    Change is a player's position relative to the previous tier list.

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    Ten Highest Risers

    Player Attribute 2nd Score 2nd Tier 3rd Score 3rd Tier Change
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    Ten Lowest Fallers

    Player Attribute 2nd Score 2nd Tier 3rd Score 3rd Tier Change
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    Extra notes from /u/Hyaz

    Some things to keep in mind in relation to the information of the tier list:

      • Score/Rating are a very generalized opinion of the perceived strength of a player based on the voters.
      • They generally do not show off the situational and/or synergistic uses of certain players.
      • Ratings were taken over a period of time that crossed over the June 22nd Patch (Timeline and Patch Notes here), so some players will have their ratings based on the opinion at the time.
    Thanks again to everyone who participated and helped out with this list.

    Additional Links:

     
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  2. Hyaz

    Hyaz

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    Thanks again to everyone who participated, and thanks @Darulos for spreading the lists over here.

    Interpret the information that the tier lists provide how you wish and at your own leisure.
     
  3. Skiery

    Skiery Jean Prodigy

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    Will these results possibly make a difference in anyway?
     
  4. Renrashin

    Renrashin Champion

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    Aside from the obv Virgil beating alot of Legs, I am surprised Lev beat William
     
  5. Yuraji

    Yuraji

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    The list might not include situational cases where some players might shine, but imo it gives a very solid view of the players overall. Gives a clear picture that something needs to be done about some players.
     
  6. Rioreusu

    Rioreusu Kuso Teitoku!!

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    I'm actually surprised Lev beat a number of other players XD

    On a side note, there's a typo at the overall tier list. Angela score is 84 but change shows 89. Angela too op confirmed! XD
     
  7. Audaciter

    Audaciter

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    The change is number of places, isn't it?

    And Leventor is actually really strong, I'm surprised people can't see this... or rather accept it
     
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  8. GioB89

    GioB89 Silver

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    Not really. This is social research, not even near to the the " game science".
     
  9. smoshy

    smoshy

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    BB CEO did say he was reading Reddit and soccerspiritsforum.

    This might influence future balance patches.

    But the main purpose of any tier list has always been to help newbies. With the constant buffs/nerfs though, this could be a trap:
    Newbie reads tier list -> newbie invests all their resources into Virgil -> BB nerfs Virgil and offer no recall -> newbie cries
     
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  10. Rioreusu

    Rioreusu Kuso Teitoku!!

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    But if the change is higher than the score itself, does that mean Angela was -5 in place before? XD

    I'm not saying Lev is weak but he's not crazy strong as well. I Just feel other players below him in the ranking are better at their role, like Jin, Angela, silk, Kiki, etc.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2016
  11. Vendanna

    Vendanna

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    Fools, Furion and Celus is what you need to invest on, they are both (G)od Tier Rank! \hehe
     
  12. GioB89

    GioB89 Silver

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    This is because it is social research about how do society feels about subject.

    it is like making social survey "What do you think about gays?"

    And conduct this survey in different places: New York, Moscow, Dubai xD
     
  13. Hyaz

    Hyaz

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    "Change" is their movement of positional rank compared to the previous tier list.
    In the second tier list, Angela was ranked #105, and now in the current one she's ranked #15; thus giving her a change of +89 ranks.
     
  14. Renrashin

    Renrashin Champion

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    Ya pretty sure BB will nerf Virgil
     
  15. Milestones

    Milestones

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    This is because most people judge players by comparing them with similar role. As such this is very subjective.
     
  16. Rioreusu

    Rioreusu Kuso Teitoku!!

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    Ahhh I see now. Now I look like an idiot lol

    Yeap I understand. Just giving my opinion as well. XD
     
  17. Okayshows

    Okayshows Recall Sharr please

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    Buff Sharr please lsmirk
     
  18. Milli

    Milli Collects F*ck Boys

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    Incoming Virgil nerf, I can feel it.
     
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  19. Vendanna

    Vendanna

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    incoming they switch legendary status from beth to Virgil... >.>
     
  20. SoccerZluts

    SoccerZluts

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    I'm going to spend some crystals now and i'm going to draw Duran. Duran buffs when?
     

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