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Discussion in 'Gameplay Questions' started by GioB89, Jul 17, 2015.

  1. GioB89

    GioB89 Silver

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    I think we are missing such thread. If Mods like this idea, please pin this topic.


    Here is my question:

    My Lucid has 58 Action Speed, Alkyde has 52 AS.
    Why almost always my Alkyde gets ball 1st?
     
  2. Jiggles

    Jiggles Puffyminator ಠ_ಠ

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    altho its a good way to keep it in one place, but everyone will just make their own thread and not even search to see if something like this exists
     
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  3. GioB89

    GioB89 Silver

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    Thanks, i think we just need to cultivate this culture
     
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  4. Denamda

    Denamda Steel Congress Strategist

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    To answer your question though, when the match starts all the action bars are filled randomly, regardless of stats. So when Alkyde is getting the ball she has just started with one that has been filled more from the start.
     
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  5. GioB89

    GioB89 Silver

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    This is true random, or there are some dependency on some stat or hardcoded in player?
    90% out of 30 games ball is going to Alkyde, it does not like to true random. Before i Evolved my Alkyde, Lucid was always 1st.
     
  6. Denamda

    Denamda Steel Congress Strategist

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    /confused/
    What are your Lucid's skills? With points in Moving Shadow she should always be starting with the ball anyways since she'll always have the highest filled bar the first time the ball reaches the frontline. Otherwise you're at the mercy of RNGesus.

    If there is a specific equation that calculates the starting action bar, I don't know it. The value the game assigns is definitely random, though it may have a bonus or possibly penalty based on action speed or class.
     
  7. GioB89

    GioB89 Silver

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    My Lucid is running 1/4/5/4 at this moment
     
  8. Denamda

    Denamda Steel Congress Strategist

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    She's starting with minimum 24% bar and Alkyde is still getting it first? That shouldn't be possible without another speed skill on the line being higher than Lucid's. Are you running Jeunese or Kevin on that line?
     
  9. GioB89

    GioB89 Silver

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    Lucid-Eden-Alkyde
     
  10. Denamda

    Denamda Steel Congress Strategist

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    And Eden doesn't have action bar, just action speed...

    Dunno then, hopefully someone does know the specifics but all I can guess is Alkyde gets more action bar at start as an Assist class.
     
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  11. Zeappa

    Zeappa Beatrice all the way

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    I'm pretty sure the action bar start out is pure random. I've had cases where I penetrated through lines and pass to Kiki, yet Kiki often ends up passing to Beatrice without any bonus attack power. Sometimes my assist starts first. Sometimes Kiki goes first and doesn't auto pass.
     
  12. Eshvoide

    Eshvoide One legend, five uniques

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    Really, action bars are filled randomly? I've been wondering why it's so weird in my front line. Sometimes Jeunese gets the ball first, other times it's Leventor...
     
  13. GioB89

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    I highly doubt that it is fully random, there should be some dependency+RNG part
     
  14. Hotsuin

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    Oh, are you Gio from DMT? Coming from the palmple forums I was surprised that there was no simple questions/answers thread in here (as I had some questions and decided to wait for more to come to finally ask them) although the subreddit has a daily section for such inquiries and more.
     
  15. Starx

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    As far as I can tell, players start at random action bars. Unless an ability states otherwise.
    This is true for Milky Way, so I assume it is also true for other characters. If Milky Way has 1 point in her Music Start, she seems to always starts with 6% Action bar, which can be a bad thing, since you might random higher values. I only tested this for about 5 iterations or so, so maybe my results are wrong.
     
  16. NEET

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    The player with the highest bar gets the ball
    If a player has action bar that is unused it is saved

    For example
    1. Your midfield penetrates, and succeed
    2. The midfielder then uses pass, the player with the most action bar gets the ball
    3. Leventor has the ball
    4. Leventor shoots while Jeunese has 80% action bar
    5. Thier GK blocks it and does a forward pass
    6. The ball is now in the midfield
    7. You steal the ball and penetrate, you succeed
    8. The midfielder then uses pass, the player with the most action bar gets the ball
    9. Jeunese has the ball


    • No its not random
    • Milky Way action bar works just like any other player, apart from it always starts at 30% (at rank 5) before filling up normally to 100%
    • Who gets the ball 1st is never a bad thing, as this effect does not slow down your striker
     
  17. Denamda

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    @NEET it is bad for Gio's specific situation here, since Alkyde getting the ball is the opposite of what you want with Lucid (when you're manually controlling to use Solar Eclipse at least, certainly it's better for League to have Alkyde get the ball first).
     
  18. Bacon is fluffy

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    Beatrice - Milky - Ryle(4 star fspu)
    Beth(ace) - Eden(2 spu) - Hilde
    Avnore - Lia - Anael
    Jin

    Who should I scout if they come up?
    Silla, Nari,kiki,Nerua or none? I'm pretty sure that even though I want to try for meta the week after next, I need an active line passer,but also need some better defender than avnore.

    Unless avnore evolved is a boss despite the low heal
     
  19. Eshvoide

    Eshvoide One legend, five uniques

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    Well, I meant at the beginning of the match (once my midfield gets the ball to the front line), I already understand how it is played after that (which you have stated is true). It's just Leventor OR Jeunese gets the ball first when the match starts. It never seems to be one person the ball is passed to first.

    My thinking was Jeunese should always start with the ball first because of his passive, but it doesn't seem to be the case sometimes.
     
  20. nishu

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    Hmm.....isn't it good if passer gets the ball first......well even in my case my bathleon gets ball first than my hiro which has more action speed......
     

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