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Dark Zibroi

Discussion in 'Unit Discussion' started by Zanderic, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    Hello everyone! So umm... I'll just keep this simple.

    How do you get this flirtatious hobo

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    To survive from being caught red-handed (one-shot, OHKO, killed, destroyed, whatever term you prefer) by this Policeman-wannabe?

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    Ps. Hiro is pure evil.
     

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  2. VelmoR

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    Draw in event tab - dark tab - or getting lucky in scout
     
  3. Remhad

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    How actually lucky in scout/draw make Zibroi not be OHKOed by Hiros, that annoying guy who you see 1 every half player? huehuehue
     
  4. Expectial

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    -Crit rate debuff in back line
    -More decrease inflicted damage
    -Change GK to Kei
     
  5. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    I think you misinterpreted my first part :v

    LOL at that 3rd advice xD

    Am using the Avnore-Luci-Ronald combo but, really. Can't do much against Hiro. :/
     
  6. Irilistion

    Irilistion Fluffynekopotato

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    I don't think he is meant to survive against hiro, just numbers working as planned.
     
  7. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    Sadly 99.99% of the world population uses Hiro... So I guess that means my Zibroi has no hope? D:
     
  8. VelmoR

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    Go Kei
     
  9. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    Already skipped Kei 9x in scouts coz he doesn't fit my team until I get Metatron D:
     
  10. Irilistion

    Irilistion Fluffynekopotato

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    Goalkeepers generally wont benefit much from team combination unless you are going for a specific combination.
     
  11. FelliLoss

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    only stacking damage reduction to 80% (Passive 25%, Silla Ace 40%, Kevin 15% +X from spirit stones) helps and quickly heal afterwards.
     
  12. shinlost

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    I hated Hiro man!
     
  13. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    Specific combination? o_O ?

    Ah! So it IS impossible to survive from Hiro after all? With the number of Hiro's... Zibroi is doomed

    Me too! And I still do! Dx
     
  14. Jinto

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    Not a big fan of the affinity bonuses (+25% is too big imo), since the players are getting bigger and stronger (due to special training and stones) the bonus scales better and better..

    Take for example:
    Pre patch:
    Hiro does 1,000 (making my math simple, because I am simple lol) dmg on Zib, he gets an extra 250 points of dmg in.

    Post patch:
    Players damage can improve between 50-100% through special training and more stones/level.
    So lets say Hiro does 1,500 dmg on Zib, he gets an extra 375 points of dmg in.
    If he does 2,000 dmg, he gets and extra 500 points of dmg in.

    If it makes you feel better, my semi light team can take on dark teams that are 1k-1.5k (TA score) higher then me.

    At the same time, at any Thunder team, I sweat at any TA level.. anyone with a decent Lev / Blade team setup and I consider it an auto lost. The only way I beat them is if their team is much much much weaker, or they haven't position them correctly.

    The only way round this, is to play a rainbow team, and swap your GKs / Strikers depending on the colours.
     
  15. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    Sadly though the only Ace I consider decent for a rainbow team is Silla... And maybe the new Isillia. Idk.

    And no, knowing you beat dark teams 1k+ higher than you is making me feel worse. Either Light/Thunder is OP or Dark can't keep up. Dx
     
  16. Jinto

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    Sorry man, lol, I wasn't trying to depress you.

    Just saying it is hard to defend against a team of the opposing colour.

    Doesn't mean its impossible.

    Zib is considered one of the best keepers out there. Your only problem is 75% of the teams have Hiro (lol).

    My personal opinion so take the advice with a pinch of salt:

    Its already mentioned in the post, stacking +HP and dmg reduction will be key. I dont mean just from 1 player or from 1 stone, all your players in the defensive line (notice I didnt say defenders), and stones, should contribute to Zibs +HP or dmg reduction or even better BOTH!. (Make sure you have 1 player in def who can penetrate of pass foward)

    Special training + Superbing Zib is just as important.

    Have realistic expectations: You cant expect a 0x superb lvl 50 Zib to defend against a full superb lvl 60 Hiro.
     
  17. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    B-B-But Lucid or Ravian doesn't always destroy Ardor keepers like Hiro does to my Zib Dx

    And also, having players in defensive line that boosts HP and dmg reduction means they're not dark players... Will be a bit tough since I mainly play dark (Game chose it for me orz)

    Can think of characters like Mira, Eden, Mariel, Mikael, and Lilith, but am not sure... What do you think? :/
     
  18. Irilistion

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    Lucid on auto has tons of damage being gutted, so ardor keepers will survive. Ravian is quite well known for a not-so-high crit rate and requires good set up to make good use (even then it fails many times). After the patch rainbow teams may have actually become better than strong mono teams due to that 25% dmg reduction to resistive elements (it will hurt alot, gutted my beatrice crits from 1.3-1.4k to barely over 1.1k on lucian). The best bet might actually be someone like mimi who can raise your max hp if you always get one-shotted just above your max hp (and put stones that boost has action speed as a passive).
     
  19. Zanderic

    Zanderic “You really are perfect.” -ANA-

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    So com2us had just turned the tables, eh... From mono to rainbow. Gg
     
  20. Irilistion

    Irilistion Fluffynekopotato

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    Not that mono teams are weaker, but just that a mono team is highly unviable now against its resistive element. On the other hand, it would be easier to steamroll a weaker element. But since arena is all about winning streaks, a rainbow team is more likely to last through compared to a monoteam (gotta be lucky to not encounter a single strong resistive element mono team)
     

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